politically charged: issues of judeo-muslim relations

it's been two days wherein most of my internet communication has been arguing political stances. i need to get some work done...

in response to the video i praised, one of my fellow poets wrote the following:


‎"jews were driven out of europe by hate-filled muslim immigrants"? and what is "the islamic mentality" exactly? and palestinians are apparently driving us into the sea? This is not a reasonable man - he's just pissed off. and, although in a subtler level, he's doing much the same thing that he's criticizing others for, namely: making appearances / cases he's noticed into a general rule.

on the other hand, it is plausible that muslims would be taught to hate jews (in a sort of formal-yet-informal way), just as much as jews are taught to hate muslims.

i definitely agree on one point (from which he started all this in the first place) - jews aren't dominating the world or anything like that. that's just silly.

dude - i'm blown away by your disconnection from a reality that's on your own doorstep. the fact that you aren't aware of the muslim (specifically palestinian) education system is actually quite worrying.

this man is totally reasonable.

i would say that he is not, and could never be, *totally* reasonable. as you say, i am quite disconnected from reality - i'm not familiar with the palestinian (or any muslim) education system. as much as i'm not familiar with the jew orthodox education system. this is a fault of mine, i agree.

so what you're doing is injecting a philosophical stance on a technical nuance of my description which has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand, with political consequences? because your suggestion, by extension, is that all of the palestinian / muslim propaganda *is* reasonable.

of course it is reasonable. as much as israeli propaganda is reasonable for us. i did insist on the nuance, and maybe that's a quirk of mine, but i also wrote something else. i'm surprised that you'd continue this argument where i tried to suggest it should end.

i'll tell you what bothers me about what you're saying: this man is not discussing israeli propaganda, he is an european atheist non-jew and is talking from an historical perspective. there is nothing that he has said that's off the mark, he is basing his arguments on the current state of europe, and if you're not familiar with the crazy shit that's been going on for the last decade then you should use google.

do some research before you throw your opinions out into the public sphere. and yes, this is "the public sphere". even if only two people read it.

thing is, in the midst of this i missed something really slanted - he talks about "as jews are taught to hate muslims," which is a hard-line leftist approach and is completely untrue. not that there aren't groups who raise their children in a xenophobic environment, but the board of education is very progressive in its perspective and most certainly NOT guilty of any hate-mongering or teachings of intolerance.